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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://joeljohnson.com/2010/notes-i-will-never-use-amtrak/comment-page-1#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having taken Amtrak this past weekend for the first time in over a decade, I can agree...to a point.

The seats were quite roomy, the snack bar a nice touch, and the views (when it was light out) relaxing. 

But the train I was on (the Lake Shore Limited) smelled awful, no doubt from the rest rooms at one end of the car; the PA system made an annoyingly loud buzz for the first three hours of the trip; and the train was an hour late in leaving, reasons unknown.

I&#039;ll be glad to give Amtrak another shot, but I&#039;m definitely mixed on them after this trip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having taken Amtrak this past weekend for the first time in over a decade, I can agree&#8230;to a point.</p>
<p>The seats were quite roomy, the snack bar a nice touch, and the views (when it was light out) relaxing. </p>
<p>But the train I was on (the Lake Shore Limited) smelled awful, no doubt from the rest rooms at one end of the car; the PA system made an annoyingly loud buzz for the first three hours of the trip; and the train was an hour late in leaving, reasons unknown.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be glad to give Amtrak another shot, but I&#8217;m definitely mixed on them after this trip.</p>
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		<title>By: almost witty</title>
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		<dc:creator>almost witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like train travel in the UK. Only without the reclining seats. The alcoholic rich family are still there, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like train travel in the UK. Only without the reclining seats. The alcoholic rich family are still there, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Stimson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh Stimson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love/hate Amtrak travel, but I think mostly love it. I&#039;m sorry you&#039;re having trouble with passengers; for me that&#039;s more often been one of the pluses. Particularly on the really long haul routes, something about the situation re-arranges the usual stranger-to-stranger social norms quite convincingly. Doing Chicago-to-San Francisco (nominally 56 hours, made it in only 59!) I found myself in the observation car, making freindship bracelets as I babysat two couple&#039;s children, and my ex-con seatmate who was on his way to Columbine to get his engagement ring back from his ex-gf played gameboy or something with one of the little girls, and the first fringes of the Sierra Nevadas rolled up upon us. Wouldn&#039;t get that on Southwest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love/hate Amtrak travel, but I think mostly love it. I&#8217;m sorry you&#8217;re having trouble with passengers; for me that&#8217;s more often been one of the pluses. Particularly on the really long haul routes, something about the situation re-arranges the usual stranger-to-stranger social norms quite convincingly. Doing Chicago-to-San Francisco (nominally 56 hours, made it in only 59!) I found myself in the observation car, making freindship bracelets as I babysat two couple&#8217;s children, and my ex-con seatmate who was on his way to Columbine to get his engagement ring back from his ex-gf played gameboy or something with one of the little girls, and the first fringes of the Sierra Nevadas rolled up upon us. Wouldn&#8217;t get that on Southwest.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Warner</title>
		<link>http://joeljohnson.com/2010/notes-i-will-never-use-amtrak/comment-page-1#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Warner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple weekends ago, a friend of mine and I went to New York City for a friend&#039;s party. We went up on the Bolt Bus and came back on the Amtrak, in part because my friend had to get to work the morning and the Amtrak, which left at 3:00 AM, was the only means of transport that would allow that.

Compared to the bus, the Amtrak was a limo. The seats were more comfortable, and we had ample room to store our bags -- unlike the bus, where we had to cram into smaller seats with our stuff underfoot. Plus, the train ride seemed at least as smooth as your average plane trip -- certainly smoother than the turbulence-filled white-knuckle flights to Dallas and Philly that I was on last year.

I do wish we&#039;d put a little more money into our rail system here and make it as smooth and powerful as the bullet trains in France and Japan. Alas, I&#039;m not sure I&#039;ll see that in my lifetime. More&#039;s the pity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple weekends ago, a friend of mine and I went to New York City for a friend&#8217;s party. We went up on the Bolt Bus and came back on the Amtrak, in part because my friend had to get to work the morning and the Amtrak, which left at 3:00 AM, was the only means of transport that would allow that.</p>
<p>Compared to the bus, the Amtrak was a limo. The seats were more comfortable, and we had ample room to store our bags &#8212; unlike the bus, where we had to cram into smaller seats with our stuff underfoot. Plus, the train ride seemed at least as smooth as your average plane trip &#8212; certainly smoother than the turbulence-filled white-knuckle flights to Dallas and Philly that I was on last year.</p>
<p>I do wish we&#8217;d put a little more money into our rail system here and make it as smooth and powerful as the bullet trains in France and Japan. Alas, I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;ll see that in my lifetime. More&#8217;s the pity.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://joeljohnson.com/2010/notes-i-will-never-use-amtrak/comment-page-1#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are probably conductors.

Which is significantly classier than the airplane equivalent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are probably conductors.</p>
<p>Which is significantly classier than the airplane equivalent.</p>
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		<title>By: Auntie Em</title>
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		<dc:creator>Auntie Em</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 13:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the post - I&#039;ve wanted to try an Amtrack sleeper for years. Perhaps on my next trip.

I do exhort you to come to the UK and try the London-Scotland sleeper: it&#039;s very civilised:

http://www.scotrail.co.uk/caledoniansleeper/index.html

(not affiliated - just a satisfied traveler)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the post &#8211; I&#8217;ve wanted to try an Amtrack sleeper for years. Perhaps on my next trip.</p>
<p>I do exhort you to come to the UK and try the London-Scotland sleeper: it&#8217;s very civilised:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scotrail.co.uk/caledoniansleeper/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotrail.co.uk/caledoniansleeper/index.html</a></p>
<p>(not affiliated &#8211; just a satisfied traveler)</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 13:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Joel,

Nice post about the last stylish form of transportation, I agree!

Over here in Europe, the restaurant car is even better. Well, I don&#039;t want to brag too much, so I&#039;ll show you a panorama of ourselves drinking large glasses of yummy german beer:
http://www.360cities.net/image/drinking-beer-in-a-train


We also have lots of panoramas of Amtrak trains, shot by our resident Train Guru, Willy Kaemena:
http://www.360cities.net/search/amtrak

When I see pictures of how the insides of trains used to look, I get a very bad feeling about where the human race is headed. So let&#039;s enjoy these locomotive dining cars before it gets any worse ;-)

cheers,
Jeffrey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joel,</p>
<p>Nice post about the last stylish form of transportation, I agree!</p>
<p>Over here in Europe, the restaurant car is even better. Well, I don&#8217;t want to brag too much, so I&#8217;ll show you a panorama of ourselves drinking large glasses of yummy german beer:<br />
<a href="http://www.360cities.net/image/drinking-beer-in-a-train" rel="nofollow">http://www.360cities.net/image/drinking-beer-in-a-train</a></p>
<p>We also have lots of panoramas of Amtrak trains, shot by our resident Train Guru, Willy Kaemena:<br />
<a href="http://www.360cities.net/search/amtrak" rel="nofollow">http://www.360cities.net/search/amtrak</a></p>
<p>When I see pictures of how the insides of trains used to look, I get a very bad feeling about where the human race is headed. So let&#8217;s enjoy these locomotive dining cars before it gets any worse ;-)</p>
<p>cheers,<br />
Jeffrey</p>
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		<title>By: Travel by train: &#34;pillows that approach normal size&#34; &#124; dv8-designs</title>
		<link>http://joeljohnson.com/2010/notes-i-will-never-use-amtrak/comment-page-1#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>Travel by train: &#34;pillows that approach normal size&#34; &#124; dv8-designs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] by train: &quot;pillows that approach normal size&quot;         A slightly ambivalent ode to Amtrak. If you like American trains, you should try those in Europe and [...]</description>
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