Help
I wrote this yesterday in an email to a friend.
Woke to the news that my stepfather has decided he is no longer gay due to a serendipitous encounter with an old pastor at Panera Bread and has returned to my mother’s house with the intent to take out all their available cash and invest in a company that sells “biblical cologne” made from frankincense and myrrh. After locking himself in the bathroom for a few minutes where he could be heard quoting bible verses to himself over and over, he emerged with a new plan: to convert all their currency to gold.
My mother, who has refused to file for divorce since kicking him out of the house over a month ago after he expressed “worry about his desires” with regard to molesting my kid brother, informed the Family Services case worker that “Nate needs to see his father.” The case worker agreed and did not require supervision.
Calls to MO DFS were not returned, nor were calls to either of the churches that are in various degrees of contact with both my stepfather and my mother. The compassionate detective at the Jackson Country sheriff’s department said she is doing everything she legally can to build a case against my stepfather, but that until he does something illegal or admits to a crime to someone who will sign an affidavit–any one of the two-plus decades of sexual assaults against developmentally disabled clients to which he has confessed to my mother or the reports of “stalking young boys” given by his just-dumped boyfriend-slash-Christian Counseling parter would be a start, if only they’d actually talk to law enforcement on the record–she is legally unable to bring him into custody.
“When he threatens to kill you or your family,” the detective said to me almost cheerfully, “please don’t call my office phone. Call 911.”
Tonight I received a call from my sister who said that Glen, my stepfather, was just released from the hospital were he had been taken to receive stitches after careening into a stop sign while running naked down the street outside of Crown Center, a local shopping center. He told my sister and mother (with who I am not speaking and vice-versa) that he didn’t remember moving my mother’s car and had been running naked to “shed his shame” (or some such).
I contacted both the KCMO Police Department and the Kansas Crisis Hotline, reaching people at both places who told me point-blank that nothing could be done to protect my kid brother–who is at home, alone, while my mother helps my stepfather search for his abandoned car keys in a snow bank–until Glen directly threatens them, me, or himself. My mother appears to be unwilling to contact the police in all these matters in an attempt to protect Glen, expressing concerns that he might go “over the edge” if she does anything.
This is clearly not the right decision in this circumstance. Glen Robert Johnson has expressed behavior that clearly indicates he is a harm to himself and potentially others–he had admitted that he had come out as a homosexual because he felt fear that staying in the closet might cause him to act on urges he admitted he had toward my brother–and I am the panic I have felt for a week or more is coming to a head tonight, because despite everything I do to communicate with the authorities, I am being told there is nothing I can do to immediately protect my family, especially if Mary Beth has decided that she is unwilling to stop interacting with Glen.
Evelyn
I don’t know if this fits your situation at all, and maybe you’re already done this, but have you filed a report of child abuse/neglect with DSS? They’re toll free line is 1-800-392-3738, http://www.dss.mo.gov/cd/can.htm. No idea if that’ll help in the immediate situation, but might start a paper trail.
Jan 16, 2011 @ 2:05 am
Julie
I really don’t know what to say. I am so very sorry. I wish I could help.
Julie
Jan 16, 2011 @ 2:15 am
Tenorryan
Joel,
Being from KCMO, I have family and friends that might be able to help in some small way. Feel free to contact me at the email address I gave to your site.
This is a very unfortunate situation. I hope it gets better.
R
Jan 16, 2011 @ 2:41 am
Mvs
You or your sister need to take custody of your brother until the stepfather is removed for good. Your sis posted this on fb and I’ll suggest to her as well. It’s all sad but protecting your brother is most important.
Jan 16, 2011 @ 5:33 am
GitEmSteveDave
Joel,
From my basic research, Missouri is a state that requires one party consent when it comes to recording conversations(meaning just you). If you are really serious about building a case, then you need to start recording conversations where these admissions/confessions are being made. Save these recordings, and email them to yourself to establish a chain of custody with a time/date stamp. You can also burn them to a CD, and seal the CD in an envelope and have the envelope dated by someone such as a notary. You can then present these to an agency(police or psychiatric or DYFS or etc…) as evidence of what you are claiming, and compel them to act(when presented with credible evidence, they can not fail to respond, or else they will open themselves/their agency to lawsuits). Otherwise it is a party A said/party B said/hearsay situation, which you will lose because of your prior animosity towards Glen and also the fact that you are not psychically at the location, which makes your claims vs. people there weak.
Be prepared for some backlash from your family, but sometimes the truth hurts, and trust/feelings get hurt.
Jan 16, 2011 @ 7:46 am
Susan
Oh, for Gods sake. Your brother is NOT in any danger. You may not agree with all of your mother’s actions, but she will not allow him to be harmed.
instead of slandering her all over the internet, maybe you should try to have some compassion and reserve your judgment of her. You are nokt helping anyone, including N., but your contempt and public ridicule of your mother will have lasting consequences.
Jan 16, 2011 @ 8:21 am
Chris
Susan, you live in the kind of denial that enables men like G. to keep on molesting children for years and years. Shame on you.
Think about it. Then think about it again.
Keep thinking about it until you figure it out.
Joel, your bravery makes you a hero. The real kind, the kind that makes a difference.
Thank you.
Jan 16, 2011 @ 8:36 am
Tavie
Susan – what on earth makes you think that she won’t let his brother be harmed when she let Joel be harmed for years and years?
It’s incredibly irresponsible of you to make these statements without knowing all of the facts. Why not familiarize yourself with the situation before starting the public scolding?
Joel’s mother is not the victim here, or at least not the primary victim, by any means.
Jan 16, 2011 @ 11:16 am
Samantha
Dear Joel:
My husband sent me a link to “Why I am funny”. I too, have similar humour in my life. It is terrifying to see the people around me forget, deny, accuse, run, lie and blame. The anger is misdirected, and astounding.
You get to see everyone around you stripped bare to their beliefs, and there true motivations. Then you get to see the walls that they construct to try and keep the situations in their lives “normal” while adding things so twisted even if they can justify and function, those around them cannot.
I wish I could help. Your little brother does not deserve this any more than you did. If your brother can go elsewhere, it would be better for him.
I realize Glen was your best friend, but he has perpetrated a cycle of anger, pain and shame that has to stop. I have never met he man, and I wish he had never been born. The helpless would be safer.
Jan 16, 2011 @ 1:58 pm
Luke
“your contempt and public ridicule of your mother will have lasting consequences.” – Susan
I really hope that is true and that one of those ‘consequences’ is the lasting safety of his brother.
Jan 16, 2011 @ 3:03 pm
Susan
Easy there campers. I am not irresponsible. I do know what I’m talking about and, further, I know the parties involved.
I am a long time criminal defense attorney — and former prosecutor — with vast experience and contacts in the Kansas City community. I have both prosecuted and defended child sex abusers and am well trained in doing so. I know the cops and the prosecutors in the sex crimes unit.
More importantly, I know Joel’s mother. Have since we were in grade school. I have met Joel’s brother and his sister. I have spent hours on the phone with Joel’s mother discussing this.
This is what I know for sure from a professional and personal perspective: First, Nate is not in danger. If I thought he was, I’d call a cop and go pick him up myself. He does not spend time alone with his dad. PERIOD. In fact, Joel has made it clear that he doesn’t want to see his dad.
Second, it is easy for you who have criticized me to criticize Joel’s mother when you know nothing first hand about her or this situation. Presumably, all you know is what Joel posts in this very public forum. She is a kind, generous, loving, smart, funny — and trusting woman. She is a registered nurse. She was deceived and betrayed by someone she loved and trusted and has paid a high price for her naivete. She did the best she could at the time of the events involving Joel Glen. He was prosecuted, pleaded guilty, and has to register annually as a sex offender. Her heart is broken by recent events.
I understand that Joel must be reliving his own experiences and pain due to his brother being the approximate age he was at the time of his molestation. I understand and have compassion for that.
All I’m saying is, don’t judge Joel’s mother too harshly if you have never walked a mile in her shoes — or even met her or Joel’s brother. This is hard enough without the public condemnation of a community she doesn’t even know. Her life is a nightmare already and now she’s being judged and found lacking by strangers, based on incomplete information.
Finally, I assure you that Kansas City is not a cowtown, inhabited by a bunch of rubes and Barney Fifes. Those in law enforcement and social services who work with scenarios such as this are competent and professional. If there was a reasonable belief that Joel’s brother was neglected or in any sort of danger, he would immediately be removed from the home. Law enforcement can not arrest someone soley because Joel believes that Glen might try to molest his brother, no matter how well intentioned that belief might be.
Put away your pitchforks and torches Just try to be kind to one another, okay?
Jan 16, 2011 @ 9:22 pm
Susan
OOPS.
It’s obvious Joel doesn’t want to see his dad. I meant to say Joel’s BROTHER doesn’t want to see his dad. I don’t like to use his name because he is a minor and this is a public forum, which could cause him distress and embarrassment.
Jan 16, 2011 @ 9:25 pm
Ted
It makes sense that people are at odds, given the situation and the stakes involved.
Let’s assume — please — that what Joel said is true about his past. In the hearts and minds of many people, this makes his father a real and valid threat to the well-being of his brother.
Here’s the question. I guess I’m asking you, Susan.
What pro-actives can be taken in the state of Missouri to safeguard a minor in a home that houses an allegedly dangerous person?
I understand that Joel and his mother are at odds about the issue. But let’s not forget: the actual focus belongs on a person who will (apparently) take no blame or responsibility, and a minor who possibly lives in fear of that person.
It’s incumbent on this minor’s community to do everything possible to protect him, even over and above the wishes of his mother. Remember that.
Jan 17, 2011 @ 1:27 am
SLT
Susan, if you read all of this and think that what random yahoos like myself think is a bigger deal than Glen’s recent behavior… what is wrong with you? Leaving the abuse aside — and I feel sick about typing that — the behavior described by Joel’s sister is alarming. And you don’t seem to be disputing any of those details. If my friend’s husband had been behaving erratically and was found running naked in the street, there’s a long list of ways I’d try to help before I got around to caring about what someone said on the internet.
If you are this woman’s friend, you are a lousy friend to have.
Jan 17, 2011 @ 1:39 am
Shannon
Susan, you seem to be ignoring the fact that Mary Beth has the power to divorce Glen and protect her son. Glen has proven over and over again that he can’t be trusted.
She has proven over and over again that she cares more about protecting her reputation than her children. At any point she can decide to make the right choice, file for divorce and go on the record with the authorities.
She can’t be forgiven for her mistakes until she stops making them. She’s already lost one son by protecting Glen. She should know better.
Don’t you think Joel would like to have a relationship with his own mother? He is completely reasonable to question her judgement until she starts making better choices.
All she has to do is tell the police what she knows, and stop pretending that she knows how to protect people from Glen on her own. She’s enabling a sociopathic, child molesting rapist.
This doesn’t mean she wants Glen to get away with these horrible acts. It means she’s had tunnel vision for the past 20 or so years because facing the truth is painful.
So, Susan. Did you ask her why she didn’t divorce Glen when he raped her oldest son? How about when he admitted to molesting people in his care at the mental institution? Or maybe when he told her that he was afraid he might act upon his urges toward her youngest son? Mary Beth might not deserve to be judged so publicly, but in the past 20 years nothing else has gotten her to face the facts, and do the right thing.
Jan 17, 2011 @ 5:02 am
Eliza
Susan,
I understand why you would want to stick up for Joel’s mother. As a former victim advocate, I understand your position (and your limitations) as a criminal defense attorney. I also understand the positions and limitations placed on social workers. I don’t know Joel’s mother or Joel for that matter, but I will take your word for it that she is a good mother. It is worth noting that the child is not spending time alone with his father, but do you really expect that to go on in the event that mom and dad get back together? I don’t want to demonize anyone here. I have a lot of sympathy for all people who suffer including those who are tempted to molest. I have a lot of sympathy for the molester here. Still, this IS a dangerous situation, perhaps more so than ever. Glen’s father is engaging in erratic behavior and (from the sounds of it) covering up his issues with religion.
Churches are one of the most difficult organizations to work with when it comes to these issues. Their focus on forgiveness is wonderful. Their focus on morality is usually spot-on. Their inability to understand the characteristics of a chronic offender is highly damaging to victims and would be victims. Our justice system has similar issues.
Because I have worked with these families, I have seen a lot of bad decisions made by a lot of good people. I don’t care if mom is an RN; I don’t care if she won the Nobel Peace Prize. I’m not buying into faulty arguments based on circular reasoning or irrelevant traits. As a lawyer, you shouldn’t either. When people are torn between two people that they love and drawn towards the understandable desire to keep a family together, things often go terribly wrong with the best of intentions present.
Joel has recently made the very difficult decision of coming forward with what happened to him. Unfortunately, these situations are very often as complicated and messy as this one has currently become. They aren’t pretty. Sometimes, they look down right trashy. That’s why people sweep these things under the rug and that’s why it is so hard for victims to come forward in the first place. Criticizing Joel for expressing his feelings on this topic, even in such a public forum, is the same type of criticism that kept him from coming out about things before.
Honestly, if I were Joel’s friend, I would probably express to him that I was worried about how talking about these things publicly might create upheaval and a lot of judgment on the part of others. I would worry that he was martyring himself for the cause. Of course, you, Susan, would be the one with the pitchfork in that situation, not the commentators on this blog.
The commentators on this blog mostly speak from personal experiences that they brushed under the table for far too long. They are thankful to Joel for talking about what they often couldn’t. They are thankful when he is able to talk about things that you find to be too embarrassing.
You are entitled to your opinion, but would do well to look at the statistics and psychology of people like Glen. You would also do well to think about the difficulties that victims face when telling their stories and how much good they can do when they tell those stories anyway.
Jan 17, 2011 @ 5:44 am
Bat21
Susan, people like you are one of the reasons why the Tucson massacre occurred. Sometimes bad things happen because people believe they can’t.
Even if you and Joel’s mother are correct in assuming that Joel’s stepfather did not molest anyone, his increasingly erratic public behavior shows that he is mentally deteriorating quickly. He needs to be committed. As long as he’s free, he’s a danger to everyone, not just Joel’s brother.
Jan 17, 2011 @ 6:03 am
Rachel
Glen agreed to admit himself to a psychiatric hospital yesterday. I’m not sure why Joel didn’t update regarding that.
I am the sister. My brother has been at no risk of molestation since my dad admitted to having feelings toward him. My mother kicked him out that night. My dad’s time with my brother since then has been minimal and supervised, though unnecessary.
The current problem is my dad’s mental instability. The most likely result is suicide. The fear is also the possibility that he would decided to take his family out with him. That is not a likely scenario, but certainly possible. But again, he is now in a psychiatric hospital.
Jan 17, 2011 @ 10:19 am
Magen
Susan,
Seriously what kind of a friend supports being married to an obvious schizophrenic? The man has had delusions of granduer for years, now again w public displays of faulty reality? If Susan were my friend~ divorce would b the only discussion. N… Does not get to choose his parents; Susan has to snap into the reality that his safety and well beinng are solely her responsibility since the other parent is obviously mentally ill.
I am Joel’s childhood friend, lived the next block over…. Susan needs years of therapy, her codependency is hurting others.
Magen
Jan 17, 2011 @ 11:32 am
Susan
Sigh.
You know, people think I enjoy debate and conflict because I’m a lawyer. Not true. Go figure. I don’t mind a disagreement or difference of opinion — if it’s supported by fact or cited authority.
What I do think is a waste of time, and certainly does not engage my interest, is personal attacks or slurs that do nothing to promote enlightened discourse.
But…. sticks and stones may break my bones, etc.
I will try to address the issues raised in the order in which they were raised. This is not my normal venue because everyone seem so ANGRY. And angry at ME for trying to shed some light on a different perspective. Sheesh.
First of all: WE ARE ALL AT RISK OF BEING THE VICTIM OF A CRIME. Law enforcement doesn’t have crystal balls nor the ability to monitor every individual that exhibits signs that they COULD or MIGHT commit a crime. They have enough trouble keeping up with the people they know have already committed crimes. That being said, certainly there are things that can be done to make sure Joel’s brother doesn’t become a victim like he was.
And I am hereby expressly acknowledging that what happened Joel was horrific and soul crushing and will make his life harder for the rest of it. I acknowledge that Glen is to blame and that it may be hard to comprehend how his mother couldn’t have known and prevented/stopped it, and even harder to understand why she stayed with him. I get that.
One, as has been pointed out, Glen is not in the home. When this all came to a head and he acknowledge he might have similar feelings toward Joel’s brother, he left the home. Since then, he has not been alone with the brother, has spent minimal time at the home during the holidays, and has not made an issue of it. He has not stalked anyone or attempted to force the issue.
Law enforcement and the Division of Family Services have been consulted. At this point, there is NOT a no-contact order issued by a court, nor does it appear that anyone believes that necessary. All appear satisfied that Joel’s mother will not allow unsupervised contact with the brother, and no contact at all if he does not desire it.
SLT, of course Glen’s behavior is alarming. Joel’s mother has been working hard to get him help, which he initially resisted.
Shannon, they are separated. There is no talk of getting back together and yes, Joel’s mother and I have discussed her legal options.
Glen is in a psychiatric hospital. It’s obvious that he has mental health issues and may even ultimately be diagnosed with bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, or any number of other psychiatric disorders. I don’t see the connection to the issue of whether the brother is at risk and should be removed from his mother’s custody. Or whether I’m a lousy friend.
Bear in mind that he same issues exist regarding contact with the brother and will have to be dealt with whether the parties are divorced or not.
Bat21, no one has suggested that Glen didn’t molest anyone. He was arrested and prosecuted for molesting Joel. Unfortunately, the laws were much laxer at the time this occured and he received probation and a suspended sentence. He completed his probation and at this point, barring any new criminal activity, there is no way to put him in prison unless he is convicted of failing to register as a sex offender.
YES, HE NEEDS TO BE COMMITTED. Joel’s mother and sister spent a lot of time trying to convince law enforcement and hospital social workers that he should be taken into custody for observation. Astonishingly, the authorities didn’t feel that was necessary, and it is not possible for someone to just “sign in” another person that is acting erratically. Luckily, he ultimately agreed to enter the hospital voluntarily.
Eliza, fair enough. I’ll own my pitchfork. But the bottom line is that reconciliation in this situation is highly unlikely. I do not foresee Joel’s father and brother ever residing in the same home again.
Magen, Joel’s mother and I are very much in the reality that it is her responsibility to keep Joel’s brother safe. Everything that can be done to achieve that is being done.
This is a horrible, horrible situation for everyone involved. There are no winners and no happy endings. Joel, I’m sure you are bearing up the best you can. My heart hurts for the damage done to you and the scars it left.
S.
Jan 17, 2011 @ 1:32 pm
Susan
CORRECTION:
I am so sorry to have referred to Glen as Joel’s father in my statement “I do not foresee Joel’s father and brother ever residing in the same home again.”"
Obviously, I intended to say “step-father” or, more appropriately, “Glen.” Sometimes my brain moves faster than my fingers.
My apologies, Joel.
Jan 17, 2011 @ 5:59 pm
shannon
Susan… where to start?
I suppose you should know that I have not just been getting information from what Joel has written. My personal life has been very much affected by all of this.
You started this “debate” by accusing Joel of slander.
I doubt anybody who has been defending Joel on here actually cares if you are a lawyer or enjoy a debate or not. This really isn’t about you.
Law enforcement is supposed to protect and serve. Glen has been a registered sex offender for years, he has not been following the rules. He has moved without reporting his address and left the state and had families with young boys in and out of his home who did not know about his crimes. This does not require a crystal ball. When the police pick up a naked man, bleeding, wandering down the street in the middle of the night, they should file a report.
Joel wrote this out of desperation. He has been on the phone with so many people in Kansas City in the past few weeks, trying to help his family. Nothing was being done, everyone was telling him to just wait and see. Maybe you should try walking a mile in his shoes before you start blaming him of slander or telling him that his actions are the thing that will have “lasting consequences.”
You know what has lasting consequences? A grown up who is supposed to be taking care of a child knowingly putting that child in harms way, repeatedly, for years and years.
Nobody has said that Mary Beth is a horrible human being. Her judgement is being questioned here, not her character.
I hope you realize how insensitive your comments have been toward Joel.
You should be apologizing for so much more than just some silly typos.
Jan 17, 2011 @ 7:32 pm
Susan
“I disagree with what you say, but defend to death your right to say it.” — Voltaire
Jan 17, 2011 @ 8:20 pm
Susan
Shannon:
You are absolutely right. This is Joel’s website and it is insensitive and possibly inappropriate for me to interject my opinions.
I was motivated only by my desire to support and defend my friend, who was hurt and embarrassed and who I believed was being demeaned and unfairly blamed for the situation, as well as a hope to correct what I believed were factual inaccuracies.
I recognize that my opinions are of no value or interest to anyone here; since this is Joel’s website,it is only natural that those visiting it and reading my comments would be his friends, who of course support HIM and view my comments as attacts on HIM. Nothing can be gained by arguing about this. I can no more convince any of you that you are mistaken than you could convince me that I am mistaken.
Our intentions are the same: to support and defend those we care about. I have done that, as have you.
Despite our differing perspectives, I have great compassion for Joel and respect that this is HIS turf. Therefore I will mind my own business from here on out.
S.
Jan 17, 2011 @ 8:34 pm
Joel
The thing you seem to keep dancing around, Susan, is that Mary Beth did know abuse was occurring. She was aware I was being abused while it was happening–at least enough to buy me a lock for my door to keep Glen from entering my room at night, etc. She knew there had been multiple accusations against him before I was abused, by clients and children in the mental health facilities in which they both worked and by participants in his college mentoring programs.
After I was abused and Glen was arrested, she not only didn’t divorce him, but coerced me to allow him back into the house where he proceeded to make sexual advances against me for years–advances about which I informed her clearly and asked for her help, which she did not provide.
Then she chose to have another child with Glen. A child whose friends and family spent the night at their house for years without being alerted that their children were spending time with a convicted sexual predator. Mary Beth chose not to tell anyone because she was embarrassed, sure, but also because protecting Glen and her life with him was more important than protecting her son and others.
And now, when Glen has exhibited deep, dangerous mental illness and and stated clearly that he fears he might molest Nate, what does Mary Beth do? She kicks him out of the house but allows him to spend time with Nate and Nate’s friends–supervised, yes, but supervised by her alone–without informing the friend’s parents.
It’s impossible to say that Mary Beth is capable of protecting herself and others when her idea of a proper response to Glen’s current and past behavior is not to instantly file for divorce and a protection order for Nate and a restraining order for her as well as informing the community at large of the danger in which she has put them and their families, but to instead go out for movie night with Glen.
I am doing my best to comport myself in the way that will yield the most safety for Nate. And Susan, I want to believe that you really do have my and my family’s interests at heart. But if you can look at the facts–the actual facts on the record and not the conveniently tragic scenarios in which Mary Beth has positioned herself as only a victim–and not recognize the behavior of a woman whose behavior cannot be trusted, then it is definitely best that you not attempt to interact with me ever again.
Jan 18, 2011 @ 12:38 pm
T. Nielsen Hayden
Saying “Life must go on,” and trying to maintain the appearance of normality, is fine if you’re trying to make it through a war and other people are calling the shots.
It means something different when you’re the one in control, and you have the power to say “This bad thing stops NOW,” but you don’t do it.
Jan 18, 2011 @ 12:59 pm
Kara Savvas
Joel – You are completely right and clear headed. I also had to cut myself off from my own mother to protect myself from my Step Father because she wouldn’t leave the man who was becomming increasingly dangerous to me. All of the adults I went to couldn’t believe any of it, or minimalized the problem – but he works with children! we would know if this was a problem! he’s so important to the church! he’s so good to your mom! your mom doesn’t need this, honey…
Keep on your path, Joel. You are doing a very good job. It is really hard to hold your mom at arms length like this and keep speaking the truth to people who just want you to lighten up and leave her alone. I hope you can feel all the love and support that is beaming to you from all over.
Have you considered getting your own lawyer, or visiting a Rape-Advocacy center? While I wasn’t raped, those were the two single most helpful places and people in my struggle to have action taken against my step father, which was hard because he danced around abuse – in the law’s eyes – by being something much harder to define (who never touched me, but ‘broke’ my door so he could watch me dress and exposed himself to me, followed me while wearing a dress, lectured me on sexual subjects to the point of real discomfort, stood outside the door of my bathroom when I peed, etc. etc. and more weirdness)
Jan 18, 2011 @ 1:05 pm
Kara Savvas
Also, the best thing for my sanity was that I always knew it was wrong and I never stopped saying that.
Jan 18, 2011 @ 1:07 pm
Leigh
my response to people i care for having endured difficult things is to try to empathize or to relate, but in this case i can’t even begin to get my head around it.
it stuns me to try and process that you went through so much, joel, let alone that the issue continues to reopen in this way. i’m so sorry for it, as useless as it is to say something like that.
Jan 18, 2011 @ 2:43 pm
5.7
Susan…really? Take off yer visor…I really encourage you while in support of your friend, you ask some some aggressive questions, not only her, but to your own denial.
/me rubs hands methodically
Jan 19, 2011 @ 2:29 am
G
When my sister was in danger living with my mother, my brother went and took her away. He then began a lawsuit for guardianship. It wasn’t pretty, but he was old enough, had the money to support her, and was able to keep her safe and away from the people who’d be a danger to her.
It’s worth considering. It can be done.
Jan 21, 2011 @ 1:23 pm